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LouRovner
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posted 04-26-2005 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
Several recent topics on this board have dealt with issues that tend to put polygraph people on the defensive. This is not good for us, individually or collectively. Responding to people like Maschke gives them a legitimacy that they wouldn’t have if we simply ignored them.

I think what we need is a coordinated public relations effort to let the general public know about the real value of polygraph, and to routinely present polygraph in a positive light. We have to start setting the agenda, and stop leaving it to the anti folks. To that end, I’m volunteering my services to coordinate that effort.

If anyone has a verified test (and I’m sure all of us do) in which an innocent person was exonerated by a polygraph exam, or a guilty person was exposed, or a marriage was saved, etc., please contact me directly. At my own expense, I will have press releases written and distributed to the wire services, TV and radio, and other media, which will include your name and location, so that you can continue to benefit and spread the good word. In this way, millions of people hear and read about the positive aspects of polygraph, and the benefits that accrue to our society.

I’m prepared to do this on a regular and ongoing basis.

Louis Rovner, Ph.D.
818-340-6963
RovnerPolygraph@sbcglobal.net

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Barry C
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posted 04-26-2005 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's a great idea. The same "cure" came up at our last state association meeting, and we hope to do the same thing on this side of the country. This is agreat site to get all the info out as well.

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LouRovner
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posted 04-26-2005 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
Barry,

I'll do this regardless of where the examiner lives.

Lou

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Barry C
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posted 04-26-2005 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
I understand. My hope is the media will go the extra step and start to talk to those of us in the profession in each of our locals.

Just a few weeks ago, the local news did a segment on two examiners who run a PI and polygraph business. The clip was very positive, and one of the examiners pointed out how polygraph is often used to clear the innocent. If we could see those little blurbs throughout the country, we'd be way ahead of the game.

Our association is looking to get the numbers on how many indicted / charged defendants and how many suspects were cleared via polygraph for such a release. If everyone takes part - as I hope they will - I'll get you the numbers in addition to trying to publish them here. The bottom line is we do a whole lot more for the public than we are given credit for, but I know I'm preaching to the choir.

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detector
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posted 04-27-2005 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for detector   Click Here to Email detector     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lou,

Seems I have been preaching exactly what you are stating for about the past 2 years. Our tagline is

Positively influencing the public perception of polygraph.

I realized a few years ago this is the only way to fight the battle.

That is why I started the 'True Polygraph Stories'. I have to say though, I've done everything but offered money for stories and most examiners are unresponsive. I haven't given up, but I'll tell you its like pulling teeth.

Granted you are taking an approach with a different medium and if that gets people on board...I'm all for it! I'll even publish your request in the newsletter for you if you want to be that public about it.

Let me know.

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Ralph Hilliard
PolygraphPlace Owner & Operator
http://www.polygraphplace.com


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LouRovner
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posted 04-27-2005 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
Ralph,

Thanks for the offer. I'd love to see it in the newsletter.

Lou

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detector
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posted 04-27-2005 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for detector   Click Here to Email detector     Edit/Delete Message
Write it up for me the way you would like to present it and I'll include it in the next issue Lou.

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LouRovner
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posted 04-27-2005 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
Ralph,

The way it's already written is fine with me.

Lou

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Ted Todd
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posted 04-27-2005 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ted Todd     Edit/Delete Message
Dr. Lou,

You are very gracious to make your offer.

The problem is, that people who get caught in a polygraph, don't want to talk about it. The people who were cleared by a polygraph, don't want to talk about the fact that they were accused of child molest or some other horrible crime.

Our stories, with annonymous subjects, will not help the cause or further the use of polygraph. What we need is REAL people, who have had a positive polygraph experience. People, who in their own words, are willing to come clean and say....the polygraph worked. I have many cases where people were released from custody or not charged based on the polygraph results. I don't know of one that would be willing to talk about it to the press.

Ted


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D. Morgan
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posted 04-29-2005 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D. Morgan   Click Here to Email D. Morgan     Edit/Delete Message
Dr. Lou,

As a LE exclusive examiner, I would agree with Ted about the lack of people willing to agree to discuss their PE experience. I could give you dozens of sex offenders who tested, failed, and confessed to the allegations, but obviously I cannot. I also like to read positive accounts about polygraph, but as far as reading about them locally, I do not want to see any local coverage about people that I have tested who then confessed. My reason is that I do not want to advertise to the local community of child molestors and rapists that I have a pretty good success rate of getting confessions. I would'nt want to scare them off! :-)

I do think that stories of people exonerated and such would be better PR than a heavy load of confirmed criminal tests. Anyway, best of luck and if I come across something that I can give to you, I will.

Danny Morgan

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LouRovner
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posted 04-29-2005 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LouRovner   Click Here to Email LouRovner     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Danny.

I'll look forward to hearing from you.

Lou

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